Re: AHS Voucher Coverage / Housing Adequacy (was AHS 2015 Geographic Coverage) - 12

AHS can't do this because the sample is too thin. In addition, respondents very often don't understand the exact program that they're benefiting from. Even if the ACS data are merged with administrative data sets (which would have to be federal,not local) there still wouldn't be enough cases to analyze these details. Local data sets can't be used because of census confidentiality rules; they would never, never allow individual records showing address of interviews to leave their control and there's no resources to collect all the wide variety of local records and match them.

The Census Bureau in general,beyond ACS, is developing new ways of showing household relationship, especially for same-sex couples. This is what they should be doing. As to new ways of how people are using their housing, I need more details to respond.

Of course ACS can and should adapt. That's not the issue. It just can't provide the details on HUD program use.

Patty Becker

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Patricia C. (Patty) Becker
APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC)
28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034
office: 248-354-6520
home:248-355-2428
pbecker@umich.edu

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, AHS wrote:

Why “never”? It seems that AHS has been revised several times over its history. While now may not be the time to seek certain data on emerging trends, there are emerging trends especially in urban settings that speak to new types of “households” or new ways in which owners of housing are using their housing.

If AHS cannot adapt, then what use is it over the long term? For planning purposes, is it to be every community for itself without some mechanism to create a common data set? And if AHS eventually only has narrowed and retrospective uses, will there be a value sufficient to justify the cost since local communities would be collecting the same data as AHS to go with their unique questions that AHS cannot answer?

The statement of “never” suggest that there is no acceptable survey research method to even merge AHS data with locally collected administrative data to reach integrated conclusions or data sets.. If I am not correct, please explain.

Andrew Daniels

MAPPLAN Partners, Inc.
P.O. Box 1701
New Haven, CT 06507
203 787-5720
203 787-5719 Fax
Daniels@mapplan.com

From: AHS [mailto:ahs@huduser.gov]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 10:40 AM
To: daniels@mapplan.com

Subject: Re: AHS Voucher Coverage / Housing Adequacy (was AHS 2015 Geographic Coverage)

Well, administrative data will have to provide these answers. AHS never can.

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Patricia C. (Patty) Becker
APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC)
28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034
office: 248-354-6520
home:248-355-2428
pbecker@umich.edu

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:26 PM, AHS wrote:

Some of this may go beyond basic scope of AHS. But this information is critical to know how we are performing on the overarching goal of deconcentration of poverty, starting with how well vouchers are spread over census tracts in a given jurisdiction.

Ed Ware
eware@nrha.us

From: AHS [mailto:ahs@huduser.gov]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:47 PM
To: Ed Ware

Subject: Re: AHS Voucher Coverage / Housing Adequacy (was AHS 2015 Geographic Coverage)

Forgive me for harshing the conversation, but I just have to wonder whether these requests are going beyond the intended scope of the AHS. (Please point me in the right direction if this has already been covered.) The requested data would be invaluable, no question, and I’d love to have it myself; but shouldn’t it be the responsibility of the program administrators (not the residents/recipients or the AHS surveyors) to report this information?

Mike Stanger
Housing Planner
ARCH (A Regional Coalition for Housing)
16225 NE 87th Street Suite A3
Redmond, WA 98052
ph: 425-861-3677
www.archhousing.org